Will you write an update / retraction if you are able to deem yourself mistaken? Otherwise the whole “I’m an objective observer who sticks to the facts unlike the woke and radical left” stick becomes ordinary, conservative grifting of which there are already so many.
Will you write an update / retraction if you are able to deem yourself mistaken? Otherwise the whole “I’m an objective observer who sticks to the facts unlike the woke and radical left” stick becomes ordinary, conservative grifting of which there are already so many.
Unlikely huh? I see that humility is your strong suit. But I’m sure you know more than Israeli scholars, Palestinian researchers and historians on both sides, because you’re good with Google. I’m even more confident because of the *checks notes* 0 references or sources in your essay. Really just fills me with confidence that you’ll honestly admit your mistakes.
Gurwinder, I’m curious now what your position is on Israel and their “self defense”? After 7 months of continuous slaughter, full on siege of water and food supply, 30,000+ dead, and leveling of the complete infrastructure including hospitals and UN centers… gotta say it looks pretty bad on them in this moment.
Also curious your opinion on Palestinians AND Israelis held captive by aggressive and inherently undemocratic leadership that doesn’t represent what the common sense majority seem to want, which is none of this craziness.
I am not the one making extraordinary claims, am I? I also do not pretend to be an expert on topics I am not. I am familiar enough with the conflict to know that your claims require some significant sourcing and referencing. The OP commenter demonstrated his credentials and indicated you are wrong in your claims. If you are as objective as you claim, that should be enough to at least demonstrate how you are substantiating these claims you are making. Is that too much to ask?
Your essay is what 2000 words? It has 0 sources. How about at least one source for every “myth”? It’s frankly ridiculous I even have to spell this out. If you make a factual claim (or dispel a fact as inaccurate), provide a source or reference. Especially for strong claims. There, now you are ready to graduate secondary school.
If you'd like sources for any of the historical, geographical, or political facts in my essay, point them out. But if you're just going to vaguely complain and accuse me of being a high-schooler, it would be better for both of us if you stopped reading my work.
If asking for basic sourcing in factual writing is “vaguely complaining” then I know enough. Ordinary conservative grifter it is. I try to read pieces of people I disagree with, and I thought yours were the rare ones that actually had some thought behind them instead of blindly regurgitating conservative talking points. But I see I was mistaken. Not surprising, but disappointing.
You’re triggered by someone presenting a reasonable argument that disagrees with your dogma so you’re whining, calling names, and screeching SOURCE, without refuting anything in particular.
You must feel like you just got dry shaved or something. You don’t to hear this well I got news pal it is pretty damn accurate. Do me a favor and provide me with a smidgeon of proof that there was or ever has been a historical Palestinian state or Palestinian people. There were a handful of tribes but that is and has forever been the ancestral home to the Jewish people. You can be butt hurt all you want but the Hamas Nazi get zero sympathies here.
You left out that Jewish settlers were fighting the British before WW2 and were allied with the Nazis... were the Arabs also allied with them? I hadn't heard that, but you're deff giving the Israeli sides version.
To say the pre-WWII Zionists were "allied with the Nazis" is a gross mischaracterization. There was discussion between Hitler's regime and the Zionists to relocate Jews from Germany to Palestine. Hitler wanted them out and the Zionists wanted them in. This didn't get far beyond the talking stage as you can imagine Jews living in Europe for millennia didn't exactly want to emigrate to the desert. The rest, as they say, is history.
You're right but the fact that the Zionists were fighting the Brits at the same time makes it look more like an alliance of sorts... I know many in India who were fighting the Brits allied with the Nazis as well...
Thank you. Since when defending human rights and denouncing genocide became equated with being a “leftist” oh and a “muslim”? To stand against war crime and genocide is to be a human. Period.
Will you write an update / retraction if you are able to deem yourself mistaken? Otherwise the whole “I’m an objective observer who sticks to the facts unlike the woke and radical left” stick becomes ordinary, conservative grifting of which there are already so many.
I think it's unlikely I'm mistaken, but if I do turn out to be, I absolutely will issue a correction.
Unlikely huh? I see that humility is your strong suit. But I’m sure you know more than Israeli scholars, Palestinian researchers and historians on both sides, because you’re good with Google. I’m even more confident because of the *checks notes* 0 references or sources in your essay. Really just fills me with confidence that you’ll honestly admit your mistakes.
Point out what I got wrong.
Gurwinder, I’m curious now what your position is on Israel and their “self defense”? After 7 months of continuous slaughter, full on siege of water and food supply, 30,000+ dead, and leveling of the complete infrastructure including hospitals and UN centers… gotta say it looks pretty bad on them in this moment.
Also curious your opinion on Palestinians AND Israelis held captive by aggressive and inherently undemocratic leadership that doesn’t represent what the common sense majority seem to want, which is none of this craziness.
I am not the one making extraordinary claims, am I? I also do not pretend to be an expert on topics I am not. I am familiar enough with the conflict to know that your claims require some significant sourcing and referencing. The OP commenter demonstrated his credentials and indicated you are wrong in your claims. If you are as objective as you claim, that should be enough to at least demonstrate how you are substantiating these claims you are making. Is that too much to ask?
What claims would you like sources for?
Your essay is what 2000 words? It has 0 sources. How about at least one source for every “myth”? It’s frankly ridiculous I even have to spell this out. If you make a factual claim (or dispel a fact as inaccurate), provide a source or reference. Especially for strong claims. There, now you are ready to graduate secondary school.
If you'd like sources for any of the historical, geographical, or political facts in my essay, point them out. But if you're just going to vaguely complain and accuse me of being a high-schooler, it would be better for both of us if you stopped reading my work.
If asking for basic sourcing in factual writing is “vaguely complaining” then I know enough. Ordinary conservative grifter it is. I try to read pieces of people I disagree with, and I thought yours were the rare ones that actually had some thought behind them instead of blindly regurgitating conservative talking points. But I see I was mistaken. Not surprising, but disappointing.
Joaquim, simply pick one or two points you’d like a source for. Gurwinder has said he’s happy to provide.
If you’re right, and I suspect you’re not and you know it, he won’t be able to oblige.
It’s very, very easy from your position. Don’t just name call and whinge.
What specifically are you disputing?
You’re triggered by someone presenting a reasonable argument that disagrees with your dogma so you’re whining, calling names, and screeching SOURCE, without refuting anything in particular.
Maybe you’re the bad guy here?
You must feel like you just got dry shaved or something. You don’t to hear this well I got news pal it is pretty damn accurate. Do me a favor and provide me with a smidgeon of proof that there was or ever has been a historical Palestinian state or Palestinian people. There were a handful of tribes but that is and has forever been the ancestral home to the Jewish people. You can be butt hurt all you want but the Hamas Nazi get zero sympathies here.
Wow. Attack mode here.
You left out that Jewish settlers were fighting the British before WW2 and were allied with the Nazis... were the Arabs also allied with them? I hadn't heard that, but you're deff giving the Israeli sides version.
To say the pre-WWII Zionists were "allied with the Nazis" is a gross mischaracterization. There was discussion between Hitler's regime and the Zionists to relocate Jews from Germany to Palestine. Hitler wanted them out and the Zionists wanted them in. This didn't get far beyond the talking stage as you can imagine Jews living in Europe for millennia didn't exactly want to emigrate to the desert. The rest, as they say, is history.
You're right but the fact that the Zionists were fighting the Brits at the same time makes it look more like an alliance of sorts... I know many in India who were fighting the Brits allied with the Nazis as well...
Joaquim, I see that humility is not something you understand well.
Thank you. Since when defending human rights and denouncing genocide became equated with being a “leftist” oh and a “muslim”? To stand against war crime and genocide is to be a human. Period.
So glad to see that you are against the atrocities committed by Hamas!
Surf Wisely.
I'm against both sides - violence in this case is both sides just making the problem worse