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jseliger's avatar

I've been reading some of the stoics while dying from a squamous cell carcinoma infestation: https://jakeseliger.com/2023/09/18/stoic-philosophy-finding-a-meaningful-life-and-the-cancer-treatment-struggle/

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Gurwinder's avatar

Sorry to hear about your struggle.

Your article is inspiring – I encourage everyone reading this comment to read it.

And you’re absolutely right that wallowing in misery achieves nothing but shorten our days further. The only problems worth focusing on are the ones we can do something about.

I love that you’re focusing on making the most of your days. But I’m also glad to hear you’re trying a new treatment, and I hope it works out for you.

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jseliger's avatar

Yeah— the new one is called PDL1V, and I’ll find out in late May whether it’s effective. In the meantime I’m getting walloped by some side effects, but right now that is the nature of much cancer treatment.

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Gurwinder's avatar

Some sad news: Jake Seliger has passed away. Read his final essay here: https://jakeseliger.com/2024/08/04/starting-hospice-the-end/

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Meg's avatar

Wow. What an incredible human. Brought to tears reading his words.

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Patris's avatar

In awe of you and your wife. We walked this path years ago. Not with your grace. And yet my husband is still here - amazing his doctors and inside right now watching a baseball game, feet up.

May you arrive at your destination with the grace and the love of your lovely wife. Whenever that may be - and may you be sitting, years from now, wondering at it all, imbued with the same grace.

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jseliger's avatar

It's been hard. Glad your husband is still with us—treatment works for many people. Recurrent / metastatic squamous cell carcinoma is almost always fatal, though. Tough draw, but we're still working on it.

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Patris's avatar

Presumptuous, but my arms around you both. Strength.

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snek's avatar

That made me cry.

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sol s⊙therland 🔸's avatar

David, a deeply moving way to cultivate gratitude. I like your meditation practice that serves as a reminder to appreciate the here and now—the dandelions, the birds, the soothing sounds of nature. Thank you for sharing this method; it's a beautiful way to reconnect with the wonders around us and within us. Keep cherishing those moments of bliss and thankfulness. <3

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The Scholar's avatar

"Anger is like trying to burn someone else by setting yourself on fire." This couldn't have been said better and is unfortunately all too true. You should explore bed-rotting if you haven't done so already. It falls under the same category, trying to spite someone or anyone with your misery, but only harming yourself instead.

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Patrick's avatar

There's a Buddhist saying : "Anger is like picking up hot coals to throw at someone else."

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sol s⊙therland 🔸's avatar

in the end, it is us that gets all the burn.

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WSLaFleur's avatar

I'm just leaving a comment to boost metrics and show support.

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Polly Styrene's avatar

I liked your comment in support of your objective.

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Mark Holtshousen's avatar

I liked yours in support of your handle.

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Sunny Stoic's avatar

It is strange how people have failed to realize or acknowledge this for two thousand years, even today, but stoicism has an almost complete philosophical overlap with the Bhagavad Gita and the Upanishads. The vast majority of concepts of stoicism are found in these two religious texts. That's not to say that one derives from the other; each just validates the other.

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Birgitte Rasine's avatar

Love Marcus Aurelius. My 13-year-old is already reading the book I have of his "Meditations". Never too early, IMHO!

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RR's avatar

Love your annotations - they often add something new and useful to the original quote.

And, ....

>I have no opinion about this.

... nicely done :).

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shieldmaidenpdx's avatar

This is fantastic. I love the stoics and have often thought about making a similar post on my site. Marcus Aurelius was timeless in many ways.

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Shawna Carroll's avatar

This is so good. Marcus Aurelius is one of my favorites. Reminding our own selves that we can only control our own thoughts and not the events that happen to us is the best way to handle all the things we have no way of predicting. But we can practice mindset.

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sol s⊙therland 🔸's avatar

Shawna, agree with you. Marcus Aurelius has such timeless wisdom on the power of our thoughts and how we can shape our experience through them. It’s all about focusing on what we can control—our reactions and mindset.

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Matt Benson's avatar

He should’ve spent less time writing and more time raising Commodus properly

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SB's avatar

It wouldn't have made any difference. Children arrive in the world with their own destiny.

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Bridget Collins's avatar

He was trying to save Rome.

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Natalie Joanne's avatar

Oof, that last one hit. Thank you 🙏

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sol s⊙therland 🔸's avatar

he saved the best for last, Natalie 😆

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Natalie Joanne's avatar

💯

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Stephen Carter's avatar

2 of my favorite Aurelian quotes:

This is the mark of perfection of character -- to spend each day as if it were my last, without frenzy, laziness, or any pretending.

What we do echoes in eternity.

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The School of Knowledge's avatar

I was only speaking to somebody today and saying how people don’t seem to realise you don’t always have to say something.

It’s like a compulsive action we have where we feel like we have to respond to everything and a lot of the time when we stand back and actually think, we say why the fuck did I say that?

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© David's avatar

"Anger" strikes home, it reminds me of my reactions when I was young and having a tantrum. I was angry in a diffuse, random manner that sought to just burn down everything around me.

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“You always have the option of having no opinion. There is never any need to get worked up or to trouble your soul about things you can't control. These things are not asking to be judged by you. Leave them alone.”

(No opinion.)

Well done!

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Vishnu's avatar

This is brilliant and a very fitting tribute to a powerful man who was not corrupted by temptations. Love it.

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Benjamin Woodling's avatar

It all sounds pretty good, thanks Marcus and Gurwinder 🙂

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